Thursday, June 22, 2017

Carp fishing tips (Sliding float)

The fishing here is on large expanses of water and I like to cover my options, so I start by fishing a basic boilie rig (illustrated in the leger diagram here) at mid range, feeding 20 boilies in the area around my rig. The rig has to be simple, safe, and cheap as we can lose a lot of rigs on rocks in some areas. I start with 2 10mm boilies on a fairly long hair rig then, depending on results, I try different flavours and try different presentation set ups with pop ups and snowman rigs (illustrated in the diagram in leger rig page here), which can be very effective. After every run or fish caught, I top up the free offerings with a further 20 boilies.

This is not instant fishing and it often takes several days to start working as we have to draw the fish into our swims, but it usually produces the better fish.

My second method (more info) is really just my version of stepped up match fishing that I do whilst waiting for the boilie swim to get some action. Most of my clients love this method as it can be instant and produces many very big bags, with the occasional big fish thrown in. I use a good quality match rod with a top quality 6lb BS line and size 10 hook. For floats I use large sliding waggler's with large sight tips. This set up may sound light, but we have very little in the way of weeds or snags like trees out in the water on most of these dams, so you can let the fish run.

Typical slider float set up for deep water fishingLarge floats are necessary for the distance we are fishing, but mainly to cope with the very windy conditions we usually have in summer, which are a blessing most days as it can keep the temperature down.

I start to fish at a range where I can feed particles like sweet corn with my carp king catapult, probably 30 to 50 ft out where I hope to find 10 to 25 ft of water. Even using my 16ft rod I still prefer to use a sliding float for any water over lOft, as I find it much easier to cast. You can use the normal sliding stop knot method to set the depth, myself I prefer to cut the line and tie a blood knot as a stop knot at the required depth. If I have to use a float that is not a regular slider and has a big bottom eye, then I have a small bead between the float and the stop knot. For casting the float sits on a BB shot about 6ft from the hook, with the bulk shot at 3ft from the hook and another BB shot about 6 inches from the hook. During the session I will move the shot about near the hook and depending on the wind may have to add extra weight there.

I cast out and immediately plunge my rod tip under the water and tighten up to the float to sink and keep the line under the water, as wind is normally a problem, I usually fish with the rod tip 6inches under the water.

Feeding is the secret on our dams, the script usually goes like this, start by feeding a full tin of sweet corn around your float, you can catch fish from the 1st cast but it usually takes about one hour, these first fish are usually the small ones. You then feed little and often after the initial full tin, say 10 grains every 5 minutes. When you start catching, increase the feeding and start feeding maize and other particles as well as the sweet corn. Then every hour or so try maize or chickpeas on the hook, eventually, usually after a few hours, you will start catching bigger fish on these larger particles. With these larger particles you may have to wait 30 minutes for each fish. If you think there are no fish in the swim and want some action, just go back on sweet corn and you can normally take fish after fish again, but remember these are likely to be the smaller size carp.

Another effective method for these carp and one which ensures ground bait and hook bait are close together and that is a 'method feeder' set up which explained more in an addition article accessed from this link.

A very important tip to remember is to set your reel clutch, we all forget sometimes and I have lost count of the number of times that we have just been able to grab a rod on its way out into the dam, reminding us that it pays not to leave any baited tackle unattended.

Every so often the fish go crazy and if you are fortunate to be fishing, then do not be afraid of feeding very heavy, a bucket full of particles can easily be used in one day.

One last tip given to me more years ago than I care to remember for fishing in Ireland is to fish the same swim for a few days, not flit about from swim to swim, my best catches normally come on the 2nd or 3rd day in the same swim.

Feeding particles around the boilie rigs has little effect, it may even be detrimental, as it could get the carp addicted to feeding on small baits, so keep the two methods separate.

I hope these tips will help you both if you are fishing alone in the region or if planning to come out for a trip with me and wish to bring your own tackle, that you can consider what you need to bring with you, if you have any questions regarding all of this then do please get in touch, my email address is below

John Bate

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